This week Benjamin and Zac discuss new Bluetooth smart lights from Philips Hue, how Apple HomeKit setup could be easier for new users, a new charging solution from TwelveSouth, and our live reactions to the news that Jony Ive is leaving Apple. (We recorded on June 27th just as the news was crossing the wire. We’ll talk more about the reports that have followed next week.) Stick around for a sneak peek at Zac’s new podcast series called Watch Time — with a familiar guest this week.

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